And that is under my control if I decide it is. I speak English because I watch films. People who tell you I know. I dont know; I just know what I have lived. I need a new kind of feminism where we are brighter than the stupid men of a century ago and we teach them the lessons. I mean, are all British people the same? At the end of the day, you know, if you have three kids, no education, no jobwhat do you do? . We have to understand that we have information all over our brain and sometimes you just need to walk so everything finds its place. My husband is Swedish and I can assure you that there is as much prostitution in Swedenits just on the Web. Is there anything really absurd? I hate communities. Updates? So there is no division between genders. And I wrote a couple of pages and I was like: Fuck, Im exactly like them. I hate that. They can no longer tell them Youre worth half of men, you know? She grew up in Tehrn, where she attended the Lyce Franais. There is no media in the world that can create as much empathy as cinema, because when you read a book, you are always active; when you see a film, you are always passive. EW: Well in a way comic books are like the perfect training school for film, because thats what you are doing .
Its everything. Again, bidding good bye to her family, the parting (as we all know, is always bitter sweet). While in Vienna (Germany), Marji lives with her family friends, Zozo and her little daughter Shirin, but she cant possibly adjust to their lifestyle, so she plans of shifting to a boarding house, which is owned by nuns, there. Maybe I will become a dancer, who knows? And look at the female magazines, all the female magazines! The enemy of democracy is patriarchal culture. If the culture of a society does not change, you cannot change anything. One of the Nuns says rude things about her being Iranian; Marji quickly bites onto her and flees from there. Ive been brought up this way.
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[emailprotected], Haven't set your password? EW: Do you think that applies to other circumstances? That is how good we can be. I have nothing else to say. So I have a lot of hope, yes. I have lots of hope for myself yet.
All the damage caused. There are more and more girls who cover their heads to be rebellious. MS: Of course, all of us are somehow schizophrenic because of this double life, but at the same time everything was so exciting. MS: Well, Im quite skeptical about social media. They do get married but on the verge of not staying happy. And it is changing.
You know, I turned 30, and in all the interviews I was asked, Do you have a child?, Well, because I dont want to be anybodys mother.. Satrapi created the illustrated childrens books Les Monstres naiment pas la lune (2001; Monsters Are Afraid of the Moon) and Le Soupir (2004; The Sigh). Emma Watson: In Persepolis you show the relative freedom that women experienced in Iran in the 1970s compared to the strict laws that governed their behavior after the revolution. It has nothing to do with him being a guy. You know, Simone de Beauvoir said, You are not born a woman; you become a woman. And so you are not born a man eitheryou become a man, as society teaches you how to behave. Like you use something; were an object. So maybe we can offer them another identity, by letting them study, letting them go to the school of the republic, and then they will have the chance to be emancipated. Imagine if they put all the money they put into arms, weapons, and wars into something that says: Any person who is a student, who goes to school, needs to have traveled to one other country in the world before the age of 18. Thats how I then suddenly discovered cinema and was like, Whoa! The latest fashion news, beauty coverage, celebrity style, fashion week updates, culture reviews, and videos on Vogue.com. I hope that I will have another two or three lives before I die, as I dont like to do the same thing all my life. We are too stupid for that.
In other countries, you have to have her naked. I was brought up with the idea that you are a human being. They never told me you are a girl or you are a boy. They told me anything that a human being can do, that is humanly possible, you can do.. She also directed the English-language dark comedy The Voices (2014), which concerned a man who, having failed to take his medication, becomes a murderer. Of course not.
In black and white, you can make any drawing, you put a little color here and there and it looks nice, it is immediately evident whether its good or its not good. I hope that I will meet lots of new people. I know what I am talking about. Vogue may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. On the other hand, who am I to say to somebody who wants to put a scarf on her head, Dont do it?
When did the idea come to you that you were going to do that? MS: I found myself saying the same bullshit over and over and facing so many prejudices. We should ask ourselves the real questions we face. It actually presented a really difficult challenge: How am I going to make it work in only black and white?
So I loved what you said about independent thinking. She returns to her parents in Iran but feels out of place, and she eventually leaves again for Europe. From the moment that prostitution exists, we have to have brothels so that we can protect these women instead of having a pimp take their money. I completely agree. It got to the point where I simply thought, I have to put it in a book, because while I like to talk, constantly repeating myself was so tiring. Its just so fast that you have information, then you have new information, and then there is something else on Twitterit all means there is no time for reflection! EW: What?! In 2019 Satrapi helmed Radioactive, a biopic about Marie Curie. But when a woman is uneducated and is not actually economically independent, you can have all the rights to divorce that you want and it doesnt make a huge difference. Thats really great. MS: Yes, absolutely. So I really think that cultural work is extremely, extremely important. MS: I went through a big depression! Her family has to spend some time in a bomb shelter. Youre ignorant, and maybe you should know a little bit better. Dont forget the story about Adam and Eve, where they were told do whatever you want, but dont eat the apple! The thinking seems to have been that because you go and throw bombs in Afghanistan and put in Coca-Cola machines that it suddenly becomes a democracy. So this society works at half speed or less. I never thought, never in my life, that anybody would be interested. And I try, you know, I just try. You dont divorce; you have to stay with the same asshole all your life! And now, time again flies by and this young teenager who was once a little girl has all grown up, again and turned into a pretty young lady. If you believe this message is in error, please email . Marjane Satrapi, (born 1969, Rasht, Iran), Iranian artist, director, and writer whose graphic novels explore the gaps and the junctures between East and West. You were the opposite of boring. You have flagged this story. What events would be more important to you?
The woman on the other hand was supposed to cook, play the piano, sew. Please make sure you have typed your email address correctly. I cannot choose people by nationality: Hes an Iranian, so I will like him better., Its very similar to my thinking on identity. Satrapi published the books Persepolis 1 (2000) and Persepolis 2 (2001) in France; they were combined as Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood when translated into English in 2003. .
I talked to her about it when I was 28 and she, of course, told me I was very stupid to think like that.
For your book club, I do understand. MS: Well, I think that the situation of the Western woman is much better. Its just a good beginning, I think. This is itit exists across all religions. Our family memory must not be lost. Isnt it true that pictures speak a lot, what words, also fail to say, many a times? Its enabled me to come from Iran, to live in France, and then make an American movie about a serial killer. If you dont use it, it shrinks, and if you use it, it grows. Do you think life is any easier for women now than it was when you were a child? This is a humanistic approach. Everything that happens to do with the brain has the power to change your life.
With morality? I dont care if you get married or not. We protect them. That might be the case, but because of Facebook governments found people and were able to put them in jail, too. I dont think you can change anything by either revolutions or the law. But I think its possibly a question of generations as well.
So if everybody were to make this little effort just to think, I truly believe it would cool people down. This is the question. So I decided to take my time, to cool down and to understand what happened. I get depressed very often, but its okay. My mother grew up in this place and she was very loved by her father and family. I am very involved with these womens issues, because I wonder why we dont believe in ourselves a little bit more. And even Buddhism and Hinduism. I dont make a big deal out of the fact that Im an artist, as that is kind of half cool but can also be very pretentious. And from the moment you understand something, its not that you justify it, but you can analyze it better. Its okay to cry. MS: And they put me in this blanket and stretcher and start to carry me down the stairs, which go in circles. . If I dont see people with my eyes, I cannot smell them, I cannot hear their voice, I cannot know them. Hence, they decide to go on their ways, Marjis grandmother , who has always been her support system helps her in every way she could, also confusing that she herself has gone through this. After surviving, she decides to change herself, so much so that she can. And that is exactly what is happening in the world that we live in. And intelligence is something you share with some people in the world that is completely independent of the nationality, color, height all of that. You know, all these people who get together all the Iranians just because of their nationality.
The idea of, Oh, we are against prostitution . So it is a result that is extremely exciting and, yes, surprising for me. But I didnt have any other choice than to write ityou know how human beings are: The less they know, the more convinced they are. . A failed relationship there exacerbated her sense of alienation and contributed to a downward spiral that left her homeless and using drugs. EW: But I guess now, understanding the context and time in which she was telling you that, it seems extraordinary that she was giving you this message. So I had to go very mellow on the other side because otherwise the rhythm of reading would be destroyed. Usually when I paint, I use lots of color. I dont even think its a question of conviction. All rights reserved. I didnt think of myself as an obsessive person, but I discovered in this process that I actually am and it suited me for a long time. MS: The only person who stops you from being free is ourselves. MS: Also, I think that we blame lots of things on men and how nasty they are, but there is also the role of women. You have given me new oomph and I really appreciate that. Then I might have the same degree of adrenaline coursing through me!
She begins her publication, telling us the story when she was 10 years old.
While every effort has been made to follow citation style rules, there may be some discrepancies. EW: I was going to sayit is so difficult for those who havent experienced it to comment on or imagine what it is like to live in those conditions, but you have the right to say something like that because you really know; youve lived it. With all the pain, carrying inside her, she tries killing herself (but god had other plans for her). But who cares about culture? I like to be alone, but not for too longso to work with others? That says it cant use women for causes other than making children or sex. Forgiveness is a good thing because you cannot go on living your life being angry, because then you become like the people you hate.
Good job! Thats why I went for something black and white, completely, with an extremely minimalistic emphasis, because I thought that was the best for the rhythm of the reading. So the calculation was very easy because if I wanted to have peace and do whatever I wanted, I had to be good at school. MS: I have lived in a dictatorship.
Everybody wants to be elected in two years, which is very short to make change. During this time, both she and Reza have heated arguments with the cops, who keep warning them, against meeting, until they get married. The more you say Dont do it! the more people want to do it. I knew then that I was extremely anti-war, because I knew it was not even a question of the war itself, but rather what would happen after the war. Its not that our politicians were much better than before. Why do we think that we have to get married to be happy? Satrapi adapted her book as a film, also called Persepolis (2007), which was nominated for an Academy Award for best animated feature. In France, even after three generations, they call them the Arabs, yet when they go to the country of their parents, they are called the French. They are respected nowhere, so where and how do they find an identity?
No, I didnt. . What do you think made your mother so empowered? So whatever you dont write, you draw and vice versa. So Uncle Anoosh tells your younger self in the book: Its important that you know.
And therefore I have friends who come from all over the world.
But how many times do we really stand up? Please refer to the appropriate style manual or other sources if you have any questions. If we start playing the same game as the people whom we accuse, that is very dangerous. Satrapi was the only child of Westernized parents; her father was an engineer and her mother a clothing designer. It is extremely difficult to work in black and white because you cannot cheat. One week after it was released, we had it on tapes.
And then like anyone, every six months Im sure that Im over. EW: Someone once told me, as we were talking about, that depression was anger without enthusiasm. When did you know that you wanted to write your memoir as a graphic novel? If you believe in the slow evolution of culture? Full stop. So instead of going to school and being emancipated, she is 20 and she already has five kids. Is film where you see your future? And I also think there was something inconsistent in the argument, which was that they should be emancipated.
So this was leisure designed for men and naturally there were many more men who were interested in it. Sometimes its the production designer who makes a suggestion that I never thought about.
So one night I was all alone, and this breathing rhythm comes. So instead of writing, Well I was sitting in my bed and I was watching out of the window and the bird was singing and so on, you just draw all of that. To decide for yourself. What are you most wanting to do? MS: Oh, yeah! Its they who say: You know, oh my girl, you have to be pretty. Breath just doesnt come to me. . If this is too personal, please tell me to piss off, but Im interested in what you do when you feel disillusioned or run-down or tired of having to keep fighting. And it was very personala very small thing, which was important. Of course not, I have written and created it all by myself. And. I read a book, it changes my life. So it became a success, but I never imagined it. Our response to violence is violence. EW: That must be so hard because, on the one hand, its available to you, but on the other hand, you cant use it in publicits like this double life. EW: Theres a lot of bullshit. Let us know if you have suggestions to improve this article (requires login).
Certainly not. Okay, we cannot run in the same category in the Olympic Games because we dont have the same muscles. That is where we are going. This is a very cultural thing; in my culture, no matter what bullshit an old person says, I will always respect and be extremely patient with them. Were a family of three people, my parents and me, so . Women are actually using half of their capacity or less; half of their talents or less; half of their brains or less; half of their work or less. They just held my hand for a while through life. And it became this unplanned, surprise success. Its a question of intelligence. Im constantly fascinated at the moment by the promotion and propagation of a kind of narcissism that I find really strange. In the end, this means that when these girls and women marry, they will be more educated than their own father, their own husband, their own brotherand then they cannot give them shit!